Comments on: voiced velar fricatives (and smiles) http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/ our digital baby book Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:35:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ryan Leigh http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-273 Ryan Leigh Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:04:26 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-273 So.... Umm.... She's really very cute and I like the bouncy seat (way cooler than all of the really "baby" patterned ones) - but I know very little (nothing...) about linguistics to comment further. I just know that Maggie says some words the same way Jonah did when he was a baby - words that he now says "properly" - so it's interesting to me that she does that. So…. Umm…. She’s really very cute and I like the bouncy seat (way cooler than all of the really “baby” patterned ones) - but I know very little (nothing…) about linguistics to comment further. I just know that Maggie says some words the same way Jonah did when he was a baby - words that he now says “properly” - so it’s interesting to me that she does that.

]]> By: Tami http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-266 Tami Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:35:09 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-266 So I was just going to comment on how it's such a shame the two of you don't enjoy parenting...... But I feel like I need to embelish my comments a bit and talk about the sounds Nora was making (but I HATED my linguistics class back in undergrad - sorry - and don't remember a darn thing from it other than the terrible mean prof!). So anywho - yeah Nora - you're getting SO big!!! So I was just going to comment on how it’s such a shame the two of you don’t enjoy parenting…… But I feel like I need to embelish my comments a bit and talk about the sounds Nora was making (but I HATED my linguistics class back in undergrad - sorry - and don’t remember a darn thing from it other than the terrible mean prof!). So anywho - yeah Nora - you’re getting SO big!!!

]]> By: clunis http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-260 clunis Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:52:29 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-260 yeah, Erika, that's crazy isn't it? I was thinking "what an interesting sound she's making." but couldn't stop myself saying "ga ga ga". We spend kind of a lot of time with me going "ba ba ba" (or whatever) and noting her reaction/interest. Probably I was just falling into our usual pattern. I haven't read Ochs and Schieffelin, no. yeah, Erika, that’s crazy isn’t it? I was thinking “what an interesting sound she’s making.” but couldn’t stop myself saying “ga ga ga”. We spend kind of a lot of time with me going “ba ba ba” (or whatever) and noting her reaction/interest. Probably I was just falling into our usual pattern.

I haven’t read Ochs and Schieffelin, no.

]]> By: Erika http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-259 Erika Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:41:28 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-259 OK, so the most AWESOME part is where you reflexively reinforce and socialize her into English phonology and discourse practices. Have you read Ochs and Schieffelin on language socialization? If not, I will send. OK, so the most AWESOME part is where you reflexively reinforce and socialize her into English phonology and discourse practices. Have you read Ochs and Schieffelin on language socialization? If not, I will send.

]]> By: clunis http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-256 clunis Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:17:14 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-256 This first sound is really interesting. <a href="http://umich.edu/~clunis/nora/nga.png" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://umich.edu/~clunis/nora/nga.png" height="40%" width="40%" /></a> The sound is here: http://umich.edu/~clunis/nora/nga.aiff as far as I can tell it's an implosive velar nasal followed by a nasalized low, back vowel. Given that none of her later sounds are implosives (but they're all velar) I'd guess this is her trying to figure out the timing of voiced sounds (it's hard work syncing up closure and voicing onset). I'm going to keep collecting recordings of these as she gets older to see if I can really detect any kind of consistent pattern. This first sound is really interesting.

The sound is here: http://umich.edu/~clunis/nora/nga.aiff

as far as I can tell it’s an implosive velar nasal followed by a nasalized low, back vowel. Given that none of her later sounds are implosives (but they’re all velar) I’d guess this is her trying to figure out the timing of voiced sounds (it’s hard work syncing up closure and voicing onset). I’m going to keep collecting recordings of these as she gets older to see if I can really detect any kind of consistent pattern.

]]> By: clunis http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-255 clunis Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:19:50 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-255 yeah, I agree they're trill-like. I loaded the audio in praat but there's a lot of noise. yeah, I agree they’re trill-like. I loaded the audio in praat but there’s a lot of noise.

]]> By: squires http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-253 squires Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:39:48 +0000 http://www.rubberducky.org/blog/2008/02/02/voiced-velar-fricatives-and-laughter/#comment-253 I heart your IDS. (Also, they sound more like trills!) I heart your IDS. (Also, they sound more like trills!)

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